Wednesday, July 19, 2023

 

Comparing Two Goldfoot Lines: Ian Goldfoot of South Africa and David and Nadene Goldfoot-American Siblings

 Nadene Goldfoot                                                  


David is 8 years younger than Nadene 
Update on DNA by David  whose Y haplogroup is QBZ67  from Rebekah Adele Canada, researcher:  The Y-chromosome haplogroup Q has three major branches: Q1, Q2, and Q3. Q1 is found in both Asia and the Americas where it accounts for about 90% of indigenous Native American Y-chromosomes; Q2 is found in North and Central Asia; but little is known about the third branch, Q3, also named Q1b-L275. Here, we combined the efforts of population geneticists and genetic genealogists to use the potential of full Y-chromosome sequencing for reconstructing haplogroup Q3 phylogeography and suggest possible linkages to events in population history. We analyzed 47 fully sequenced Y-chromosomes and reconstructed the haplogroup Q3 phylogenetic tree in detail. Haplogroup Q3-L275, derived from the oldest known split within Eurasian/American haplogroup Q, most likely occurred in West or Central Asia in the Upper Paleolithic period. During the Mesolithic and Neolithic epochs, Q3 remained a minor component of the West Asian Y-chromosome pool and gave rise to five branches (Q3a to Q3e), which spread ac...
                                     Ian Goldfoot :  Went for Track at the University in Austin, made a name for himself. His Y haplogroup was also Q, but a little different-through mutation, Q-M378.   

Ian's Y haplogroup has been tested at 67 alleles with Q-M378.

David's Y haplogroup has been Big Y tested with QBZ67. Previously it tested as Q-Y2200.  

Genealogy shows that Ian, born November 4, 1934 in Kruderdorp, South Africa was the son of  Solomon "Shlomo" Goldfoot b: August 1904 in Dublin, Ireland and Mary Alpert b: 1906 in Kilmarnark, Scotland.  Solomon was the son of Hyman "Haim" Goldfus/Goldfoot b: 1867 in Telsiai, Lithuania and Bluma Kogan.  Ian died  9 Feb 2022.  Hyman was the son of Avraham Goldfus b: 1825 and Hinda.  Avraham was the son of Yankel Goldfus b: 1768-1774 and Khana Unknown  in Telsiai.  

At one point, Nathan was also living in Dublin, Ireland and from the looks of the address, was next door or with his Goldfoot South African family recently from Telsiai, Lithuania family.  Nathan had gone to England first, then went to Ireland.  It was the path of many other Jewish Lithuanians.  

David and Nadene are the children of Moses/Morris/Maurice Goldfoot b: 1908 of Portland, Oregon and Mildred Robinson born in 1934 and 1942.  Maurice was the son of Nathan Abraham Goldfus/Goldfoot of Telsiai, Lithuania b:1881-1884.  Nathan was the son of Movsha Goldfus b:1836 in Telsiai and Beila Unknown of Telsiai.  Movsha was the son of Josel Goldfus b: 1798 and Rasha Unknown in Telsiai.  Josel was the son of Yankel Goldfus b: 1768-1774 and Khana Unknown in Telsiai.

Josel and Movsha were brothers, sons of Yankel.   

David took 5 generations to get to Yankel. (David, Maurice, Nathan, Movsha, Josel, Yankel.  

Ian took 4 generations to get to Yankel.  (Ian, Solomon, Hyman, Abraham, Yankel. ) 


      Gene was also involved with the book: Bringing the Past to Life, Part II, Hirshhorn/Friedlander Families Revisited.  From DeAar, South Africa.  A Kahala link at:  JewishGen.  https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/de_aar/Bringing_Past.html.  Yes, I have several Friedlanders matching my DNA as 4th cousins.  

My genealogy work was checked by another distant cousin, Gene Lepere, author  her autobiography, of NEVER PASS THIS WAY AGAIN.  Gene was the daughter of art collector, Joseph Hirshhorn, and worked as a marketing consultant.  She lived in Los Angeles.  So we're connected to her family.  My brother and cousin Sandra match Donald, one  of the male Hirshhorns. Gene led an amazing life.  I used Jewishgen for much of my work.  

    The Shabbat Dinner Get-together:  Ian drove down from Houston to Austin to meet us and that's a LONG distance.  Texas is huge.  

The amazing thing is that Ian moved to Texas and was living in Houston.  David left the Northwest and also is living in Texas.  Nadene finally took a trip and visited David and his wife, Lorraine and the three Goldfoots  met at David's home for a Shabbat dinner.  The time went by too fast for me.  By the way, Ian had that very British/South African accent.  I have spent many years teaching English to foreigners, but I had a hard time at times catching what Ian said.  Lucky for me it was still English and not Lithuanian or Russian.  Oh yes, on the other Goldfus/Goldfoot side, there is a Nadine Goldfoot in England who is a lawyer, helping foreigners with their problems.  She's much younger than myself, and is my 3rd cousin once removed.    My 1st cousin, daughter of my father's sister, is a PhD of technical English, headed the ESL dept. at our university in teaching English to foreigners.  It must run in the family.   
Back home in Gresham, Oregon


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